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2013 TVS Apache 180 ABS Test Ride Review


TVS Apache 180 ABS Test Ride Review

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TVS Apache 180 Review

Bike tested: 2013 TVS Apache (ABS)

Price OTR Mumbai: Rs. 94,000/-

The Apache 180 has a splendid blend of performance and handling, enough to put a wide grin on your face.

The Apache RTR is a range of motorcycles from TVS Motor, which come in two categories – 160cc and 180cc. The Apache is well known for being a quality and race inspired motorcycle from the TVS stable. Its racing characteristic has earned itself a special place in the Indian motorcycle scenario. The motorcycle has been upgraded two times in the last two years. The Apache 180 also boasts of a segment first feature – ABS! Yes, that’s right! Anti-lock brakes from a home based manufacturer is a very unique and a highly appreciated move by TVS. Recently TVS updated the Apache, giving it many cosmetic changes. TVS says that it is a new bike with the same bloodline. We take the flagship TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS for an early morning ride to Aamby Valley to see if it really does deliver the best and lives up to the hype.

Styling – The TVS Apache RTR 180 is an extremely sporty and dynamic looking motorcycle. The compact dimensions, low stance and the tri-color scheme (black, white and golden) shout sportiness. The large head light dome with the LED (not so bright) lights looks like an eyebrow and grabs a lot of attention if you are looking at them through the rear view mirror.

The huge bikini fairing with the RTR decal looks very futuristic on the TVS Apache. The electrifying graphics, the well-sculpted tailpiece with the Indian monogram is inspired from Italian automotive manufacturers. There are carbon fibre cues on the distinct looking side panels. The new chiseled engine belly fairing is much more noticeable than before. The exhaust though, could have been designed better as it looks outdated. The rear looks distinctive thanks to a unique tail light piece and a short and open mudguard.

The pillion footrest is now mounted directly to the chassis like any other international sport bike and it replaces the footrest holder of the older TVS Apache. A small detail but adds a lot of flare to the entire sporty package. While other bikes in the category have a muscular theme, the Apache is the sportiest naked bike in the country today (below Rs. 1 lakh).

Instrument Cluster and Switch Gear – The instrument cluster looks very racy. The carbon fibre cues with the blue backlit and the white tachometer adds a lot of excitement to the package. It is loaded with goodies too. The cluster features a clock, top speed and an acceleration time recorder. The TVS Apache also comes with a service due indicator, two trip meters, fuel and battery warning indicator. Switchgear and palm grip are made of high quality material. The piano black finish on each button of the switchgear is a dazzling idea. We find that the switchgear and the palm grip also adds sportiness to the package.

Ergonomics – The seating position on the TVS Apache feels fairly dedicated, wide and comfortable at the same time. The stock setting of the clip-on handlebars we had on our bike was comfortable for even long rides. The seats of the TVS Apache are well cushioned for both the rider and the pillion. The seats are big enough to accommodate a rider of any size. The tank is sculpted according to the seating position, so you can grip the tank and ride enthusiastically. Rear view mirrors are well positioned and offer a great view of what’s behind.

Performance and Gearbox – The TVS Apache RTR 180 is powered by a single-cylinder, 2-valve, 177cc engine producing 17.03 PS of power at 8500 RPM and 15.5 Nm of torque at 6500 RPM. This all aluminum engine is smooth and refined. Throttle response is excellent and crisp. NVH levels are mediocre. The vibes can be felt on the handle bars and foot pegs after crossing 6000 RPM all the way until redline. This engine sound track deserves a special mention. The TVS Apache sounds very sporty and throaty under 6000 RPM after which it screams all the way to redline in a smooth manner. This 177cc motor loves to rev up to the redline. This engine is mated to a smooth shifting 5-speed gearbox.

The first three gears are short and acceleration of the line is very fast for this powerhouse. Fourth and fifth gears are relatively tall, aid in cruising; extract better fuel economy and top speed. Fueling is smooth and there is no jerkiness in the entire rev range. The 11,000 RPM redline is there, but then again power tapers off after 10,000 RPM. Low-end torque is excellent and one can easily potter around town in third gear and a slight twist to the throttle provides ample overtaking power. Mid-range is good for overtaking and bike reaches from 60 to 100-110 km/hr very easily, after which it struggles to reach its top speed of 130 km/hr (speedo indicated).

Riding Dynamics – Armed with a double cradle frame and twin shock absorber layout at the rear and telescopic suspension at the front, do not think that it is a slouch in the corner. Despite the conventional suspension, the bike handles beautifully! The compact dimensions, the extremely short wheelbase makes the Apache extremely fun to throw around sweepers and corners. The spring and the dampers are well tuned and the chassis is stiff. The perfect rake and trail, the mature suspension setup at the front and rear give the RTR the composure it needs while cornering.

The feedback from the steering is excellent and feels well weighted at any speed, inspiring confidence to the rider all the time. The ride quality is on the stiffer side but not extremely stiff to make things uncomfortable. Turn in is crisp and low stance of the bike helps you to lean and get your knee down into corners easily.

The Apache is very nimble in the city and changing directions in the traffic feels like you are driving a motorcycle, a category below. High-speed stability is good. Sudden directional change on bad roads disturbs the bike’s composure. 270 mm petal disc at the front and 200 mm disc at the rear with steel braided lines and ABS assistance stops the Apache 180 in a very short time, be it from 60 km/hr to 0 km/hr or from 120 km/hr to 50 km/hr. The stopping distance is very less, which is instantly noticeable. The major chink in the amour is the dreadful TVS tyres which are extremely hard compound tyres and give no grip what so ever. The tyres start squeaking on hard braking and through fast sweepers.

Miscellaneous – An upgrade to sticky soft compound tyres of same dimensions will aid a lot more confidence. The LED pilot lamps act as daytime running lights, they stay on always. If you wonder why the pilot lamp switch is for, it is for turning the tail light on. No flap mechanism of petrol lid on a flagship motorcycle is really a bad idea. The ground clearance is low, but even hard cornering or with a pillion, nothing kisses the ground. ABS is on, when the light is off, a strange fact, should have been vice versa. Factory rear suspension setting is on softest mode. Please change to second for best compromise of high-speed stability, better dynamics and ride quality.

The Apache written on the tank used to be a sticker, now it’s a 3D logo. Given the engine performance, an oil cooler could have made long distance touring a lot less stressful. TVS claim this new model with larger bikini fairing is 10% more aerodynamic and cools the engine much better. The weight has gone up by 1 kg over the previous model. Head light throw is not so wide, but the illumination is superb. The dual seat texture with stitching also adds a sporty touch to the package. As every other TVS bike, fit and finish is excellent, no uneven panel gaps, high quality materials are used.

Verdict – There is no doubt that the TVS Apache RTR is one of the best options for the enthusiasts out there. The dynamics are excellent and an ABS system that works precisely sweetens the deal further. The recent cosmetic update also takes the style quotient higher. If only TVS could come up with higher capacity motorcycles with the same DNA injected into them, it could help them tap into this quickly growing premium market before it is too late. While the tie-up with BMW is sure to rock things in the future, we feel TVS has the ability to produce a splendid 200-250cc motorcycle on its own. The Apache 180 is after all proof, that TVS does know what the enthusiasts want.

The Apache RTR 180 ABS offers good performance, sharp handling and excellent brakes. This bike has a soul.

What’s Cool

* Sporty and futurisitic aesthetics
* Ride and handling balance
* ABS

What’s Not So Cool

* Vibrations
* Dreadful tyres

2013 TVS Apache 180 Specifications

* Engine: 177.4cc, 4-stroke, 2-valve, air-cooled, SOHC, single-cylinder
* Power: 17.03 BHP @ 8500 RPM
* Torque: 15.5 Nm @ 6500 RPM
* Transmission: 5-speed manual
* 0 – 100 km/hr: 15 seconds
* Top Speed: 124 km/hr
* Fuel Consumption: 40 km/l
* Fuel Type: Petrol
* Suspension: Telescopic forks (Front), Monotube inverted gas filled (Rear)
* Tyres: 90/90/17 (Front), 110/80/17 (Rear)
* Brakes: 270 mm petal disc (Front), 200 mm petal disc (Rear), ABS

2013 TVS Apache 180 Dimensions

* Length x Width x Height: 2085 mm x 730 mm x 1105 mm
* Wheelbase: 1326 mm
* Ground Clearance: 165 mm
* Fuel Tank Capacity: 16-litres
* Kerb weight: 139 kgs

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  • karan

    still this bike is not worth the price….

    • Akash

      Are karan… Nahi yaar. ABS costs 11,000 more. Otherwise price is around 83,000 here in dehradun.

      • Prasanth

        @ Akash, The ABS Version is good even if costly,i had a serious left leg multiple fractures riding honda unicorn,i grabbed on the disk brake urgently when an old person made a wrong turn on cycle(even before i horned multiple times and alerted him).As a result i had to spend nearly 2 lac for surgery and medication,physiotherapy.And it took about 6 months for bones to recover and after i year i was able to walk with confidence.The metal things are still in my leg.IF i had an ABS Bike the wheels would have never locked and i had survived.So it is better to see our safety FIRST than Money.Because the streets are now full of fools with high CC bikes in top speed,the careless women flocks crossing road and so do the old peoples….I am saying out for you people safety,but until and unless they suffer,they will never learn it. Any way you have been alerted !! Ride Safe

    • Mohit Soni

      @karan we understand its on the pricey side..but if you look at the competition such as karizma,r15,cbr 150r they lack abs and rtr has similar performance as these bikes and offers good quality and reliability as well!

      The problem with Apache it is a underrated bike for no particular reason, people who own it know exactly what this machine is capable of doing.

      • Akash

        @mohit why pulsars are so popular and apache ain’t ?? Just asking…

        Now please don’t think that m critising pulsars they are also good….

        • Mohit Soni

          VFM is a huge factor when people buy anything, especially in automotive market!!

          Enough said ;)

  • Akash

    Those long tank shrouds looks a bit odd na.

    You know this bike needs POWER MORE POWER . . . Atleast tvs should have brought a 200cc 4 valve oil cooled engine. And even more powerful fuel injected engine would be a most welcome…

    Anyway let’s see what tvs will bring to us . . . . . .

    • Mohit Soni

      @Akash, that’s what we also wanted from TVS!! A 200-220cc oil cooled 21-22 bhp motorcycle!

    • dhaval

      200cc engine is not suitable for bike of apache size. TVS should develop new model and work upon engine refinement.

    • karan

      No 4 valve engine until they produce a 250cc + engine as 4 valve engine will give more power with fuel efficiency and will compromise the torque, one will miss pumping compact sounds produced through exhaust then.
      They should give the Fuel Injection system to be more fuel efficient and K&N filter for more power.

  • Sagar

    Well the Helmets were Awesome are those LS2??? Well MOTORBEAM you should even review Accessories,it would be really Useful…cheers \m/

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Sagar, sure, why not. We will look into it ;-)

    • Senthil

      @Faisal/Mohit: its a very good point and u guys should think about it very seriously.

      • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

        Yes but then there are quite a few available and manufacturers co-operation is needed.

  • Akash

    @mohit yes bro TVS APACHE RTR 225 . . . . No no 250… With 30 bhp… That would be a nice deal…

  • sandy

    “ABS is on, when the light is off, a strange fact, should have been vice versa”; IMO its good as it acts as warning light for the rider that he is not implementing the safety measures. I’m always in love with Apache, even when it was Fiero.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Sandy, I think the manual confuses you a bit.

    • akash

      sandy…. I was about to tell the same…. It acts as warning light….

  • akash

    some fab pics there, really good for apache fans for wall papers

  • No One

    Really liked the picture and hats off to the rider for those awesome cornering stuff….

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Thanks buddy, we are glad you liked the pics.

      • Avinash

        Pica are fine but the looks of the bike really sucks…the person who designed this new look should be a bloody noob cartoonist.

    • Mohit Soni

      No one, that would be me who is getting his knee down :)

      Thank you ;)

  • batman

    tvs teasing “2 days to go” on their fb page. What could it possibly be?

    • Akash

      O batman… Apni bike de de chalane ko….

      TVS KA NAYA SCOOTER HOGA….. Hybrid wala ya new 125cc wala…

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Batman, Apache birthday maybe.

    • batman

      you maybe right.. there is nothing much to expect ,or is there?

      • Akash

        Does those 2 days are over or not ???

  • batman

    my bike? no not now. There is a storm coming mr akash .. So try to understand.

    • Akash

      Okay…. Gadget man….

  • abhi

    actually this faisal encourages only honda…
    he might be a rich ass… :P

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Abhi, very funny, I don’t encourage any company just because of personal choice. We have always recommended the Apache and if you see, we took extra effort with the pics of this bike.

  • batman

    you maybe right.. there is nothing much to expect ,or is there?

  • Bishakh Rout

    What exactly is “Piano Finish” on each button ?

    Do they hum on being touched ?? And I don’t really think they use wood to craft switchgear, do they ??

    • Mohit Soni

      Piano black finish on the each switch! it shines so its called piano black!

      • Akash

        @Mohit when will those 2 days over…. No news of tvs yet ???

        • Mohit Soni

          @Akash, nothing yet..stay tuned though anything turns up we will post up!

          you can check the website constantly though.. may be TVS will upload the features first on website and then let the media know :P

  • Sumit

    What is the height of the rider?

    • Mohit Soni

      @Sumit the rider’s height (Me) is 5′ 10

      • Sumit

        Thanks for replying Mohit. Is this bike suitable for a 181 cm tall rider?

  • Nik

    Hi Faisal,
    Could you please let me know the TVS product quality as compared to Honda and Yamaha. Do really we experience vibrations over 80km/h as my friends say.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Nik, yes vibrations there on Apache but if you put Motul oil, that will be reduced.

  • Mayur

    one must understand the importance of ABS in higher cc bikes especially in mumbai,they are life saver!!.being an owner of this new beast ,i must say its a complete package of performance ,safety,handling n looks .
    .

  • adithya

    What’s ur opinion in apache 180 rtr ….
    i mean without abs …

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Its a good bike, worth a buy.

      • adithya

        thanx …. actually i’m buying it this week ….

  • adithya

    i’ve heard that tvs is replacing beast with the old one … if itis so, then what about the spare parts of beast ? will they available n future ??

  • Bibek behera

    Khash he

  • Akash Rawat

    hey, i am confused which one to buy fz-s or apache rtr.
    i know in fz-s mileage is on the lower side ( 35-38kmpl) and the rtr vibrates at high speed!
    so i am not sure. can you guys please help!!!

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Akash, RTR if you want a performance bike.

  • Sunny

    Karizma zmr produces 17.6 bhp power that’s not more than apache 180

  • Atish

    Hey, I am looking for a new bike..can you tell me about pros and cons of tvs apache RTR180 ABS and pulsar 200NS and their comparison ?
    which one you think is better ?

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Atish, both bikes are good, 200 NS is faster but the Apache is quite fun too.

  • AShraf

    i am planning to buy apache!!!! but confused whether to buy the beast or the old 180!!!!
    help plz…
    cheers mate

  • Sunny

    How does 2 valve and 4 valve engine make difference? Please explain.

  • j.jeyaprakash

    This company is very very good model of apache2013model. But very big amount in this mpd

  • dipak dharra

    Plzz tell me how is dis bike?? I m going to buy dis..i wantd 160 abs in white but its not available in white…so i thought to buy 180…but its fuel efficiency is too much…m so confused plzz help me…what shud i do???

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Dipak get the 180 in white, looks good.

    • karan

      Get a Apache 180 ABS and buy a Fuel Injection system for it to be more fuel efficient.

  • Pradeep

    Hi faisal bro I’m planning to buy a bike but I’m confused between pulsar 200ns apache180abs or r15 please suggest me and I will drive little fast

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Pradeep, R15 the better option here.

  • Pradeep

    But which is better in braking faisal bro r15 or the apache180 abs

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Pradeep, even without ABS, the R15 is better.

  • Pradeep

    Thanx bro now I made up my mind I’m going to buy r15 v2 invincible black and thanx again for your advice

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      You are most welcome Pradeep.

  • sendhur

    FAISAL BRO , i am going to buy a bike bro so pls suggest me a bike bro i am looking for performance and comfort bro and handling and i am going to ride in race track also bro ……… pls suggest me a bike bro.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      What’s your budget. R15 is the track bike.

  • sendhur

    bro faisal i am planning to buy a bike and i am track rider @ mmrt i am learner only so plss suggest me a bike and i am looking for performance , handling and comfort so pls pls suggest me a bike bro

    • Mohit

      200 NS is Ideal for track days. With comfortable riding position, excellent performance, spectacular handling and sheer VFM!! Just change the tyres to MRF Front Nylogrip (found in fz) and Rear MRF Revz Radial (found in R15 V 2.0)

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      R15 is your best bet. If budget permits, look at Ninja 300.

  • sendhur

    thanks mohit and faisal bro thanks for ur suggestion and i am not too rich so i am going to buy pulsar 200 ns

  • naman

    Hey guys i have heard tht tvs has a poor servicing and aftr buying dis new beast it gives problem like oil leakage and vibrations are there too….is dat true??coz m.plannig to buy.180 with abs nxt week

  • Pradeep

    Where is the ABS switch on this apache ?

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Pradeep, right on the console.

  • GOPAL LAL PANDEY

    Dear I have TVS Apache 160 RTR Dual Disk Brake, yesterday I applied sudden brake & disbalanced with injuries. I experienced that Dual Disk Brake is very dangerous. Can I modified it with ABS System? What should I do for safety in best manner with fuel efficiency? Thanx in advance for your valued advises. I wait anxiously …

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Gopal, never stand on the brakes, always apply brakes safely, modulating the lever as per terrain and need. Use engine braking for smoother speed reduction. ABS cannot be retrofitted.

  • naman

    Hello faisal bro…i want to buy dis bike…but i m confused between 200 ns and apache 180 abs…coz of the vibrations in apache…r d vibrations a big deal??

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Naman, if you maintain the bike well and use synthetic oil then you can eliminate vibrations to a certain extent.

  • k.p

    paint quality is superb on apache along with Fz

  • Debasish Khandai

    sir i m going to buy a new bike
    confused between Pulsar 180 and Apache 180
    plz suggest me
    main priorities are mileage and comfort riding.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Debasish, Apache 180.

      • Debasish Khandai

        Thanxx Faisal Bro. :)

    • sunil

      apache 180 is best choice

  • varun

    Hello bro faisul i want a bike whose engine should last for atleast 4yrs without any big issues an m bike fan of apache but i also like d refined engine of karizma..do we get a lot of vihrations ij city conditions i mean below 50 ..should i go wid apache or karizma r?? please hlp bro

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Varun, Karizma’s new model is around the corner, wait for it, you will automatically go for the Apache then ;p

  • Anubhab

    Hi Faisal,
    I’m planning to buy a bike by next month. I narrowed down to FZ-S, APACHE RTR 160 & APACHE RTR 180 (without ABS). I’ll be using it mostly for day-to-day riding and sometimes occasional touring. Which will be good among these? And one more thing, I heard that APACHE is prone to vibration, in higher Rev range, can we live with the vibration or it becomes unbearable for long trips. Waiting for your valuable reply.

    Regards,
    Anubhab

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Anubhab, you can live with the vibes but try to get ABS model.

      • Anubhab

        Thanks Faisal for your reply

        Regards,
        Anubhab

  • amol

    Hi…admin my younger bro bought 160 rtr…I was upset abt his choice bt whn I rode the bike for a tour of 500 km it showed more power n performance than my pulsar 150…apache 160 gives mileage of 57 kmpl…n wid awesm pickup…little vibrations bt awesm bike…apache is really race bike…one more thing the lcd display on console of apache is nicr n blue while of pulasr is orange n causes problems in night thnkz…

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Yes Apache is very good bike, quite underrated too.

  • febin

    it’s same to 180 it will never and ever beat 200ns speed power 220. and apache tyre are very small

  • st

    faisal,plz tell me about the rear suspension.and its second settings.where i can go for its settings.is dealers do it

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Yes dealer will do it.

  • st

    faisal,tell me about the rear suspension and its settings.where from i set these settings.

  • st

    what i tell dealers.suspension

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Yes, tell him to adjust it.

  • RAJU ORAON

    my apache rtr 180 abs bike. ABS is dead. plese solution this problem……

  • Raju Oraon

    mera apache rtr 180 abs bike ka abs koi kam nhi kar rha hai. eisa koi service centre ka naam bataiye jaha par ja kar me apna bike ka abs thik kar saku ( kalkata– me)

  • Ather Nomani

    mera to mast chal raha hai frnds

  • Siddharth

    frnds I want this beast with ABS and i have paid advance booking amount on 10 oct but bike is not coming in showroom don’t know why?
    it seems like these guys don’t want to sell their bikes or can any one tell me how much time required to get this bike.
    i live in Bhopal M.P.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      At times waiting period can be high.

  • zeeshan

    Hey faisal i heard the abs version has stopped… Tvs is not manufacturing anymore… Pls let me know about this cause im buyin the bike in bangalore….

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      No they have not stopped ABS model.

  • zeeshan

    Hey faisal does the abs work good does it have any defaults let me know

  • neeraj

    my rtr 180 is worse!! its been 3 yrs nw and from 7month of purchase,my piston broke down. I changed it undr warranty bt still had to pay 4000rs total I think was around 8000. since then my bike doesnt cross more than 100km/hr. its takes around 9 secs to reach 60 km/hr n around 30sec to touch 95. dnt say ur clutch discs gone, I hav changed many times ol at SVC. they cnt even fix my problem. so nw its been around 2 yrs i’ve been riding that way!!
    am nvr gonna buy TVS,BAJAJ,HERO.. either ktm,yamaha or honda.

  • sunil

    @faisal…..I’m confused between rtr 160 & 180….I’m concerned with mileage….and i heard that there are vibrations in this bike at higher speed and u gave a suggestion to use synthetic oil!!! ….should v always use that oil as its is too costly?????….please answer me….

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Sunil, using synthetic oil in a bike isn’t much costly. Besides, if you want performance get the 180, else the 160 is good too.

  • Md. Saifuddin Shah

    Hi Faisal,

    You are giving suggestion to all. So guide me too. As ABS not in my budget I have planned for Apache RTR 180 without ABS. I never used any bike. So please guide me how do I be perfect with my bike without ABS. How should I handle my double disk bike to become safe. Also what is the dos & don’t for long run with my bike.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      ABS is good but if it doesn’t fit in your budget, no worries, get the non ABS model. Don’t brake hard initially, get used to the brakes, apply front and rear equally.

  • Prashant

    Hated this bike a few years ago… Now when I need to buy one I tried it out too and shockingly I ruled out ns200… It rocked both 160&180.. I thought if I buy apache il choose 180 as I ride only 30 kms per day… But after this useful review I’m definitely going in for 180 ABS..
    Dulled out gs150 & ns200, still have to rule out fzs & fb twister..
    Awesome review

  • PRASHANT NAGPAL

    DEAR MOHIT & FAISAL,
    IS CHANGING THE OIL TO SYNTHETIC OIL RECOMMENDED AS SOON AS I GET THE BIKE?
    ALSO I READ YOU SUGGESTING THAT THERE IS A PARTICULAR WAY A NEW BIKE HAS TO BE RODE IN THE FIRST FEW THOUSAND KMS, CAN YOU PLEASE BRIEF ON HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO USE MY BIKE WHEN ITS NEW SO AS TO GET GOOD PERFORMANCE, MILEAGE & PROBLEM FREE LIFE.

    THANKS IN ADVANCE
    PRASHANT

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Not as soon but after first service.

  • Ujwal Singh Thakur

    Mohit, Faisal, I’ve bought an Apache 180 with ABS on Diwali ’13. Now I’m doubting my choice between R15 and Apache 180 ABS. I’ve always been an Apache fan. But R15 looks more sporty with it’s full fairing. I just ignored the fact that R15’s got an 150cc engine and didn’t buy it. Was that a bad move? My priority is pick-up (power), handling and manoeuvrability.

    Pls reply.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Ujwal, not at all a bad move, the Apache is an awesome bike too.

      • Ujwal

        Thanks for the reply, Faisal. Really appreciate it! I’ve a few more questions to ask you.
        1. My Apache vibrates a helluva lot in 3rd gear. Will this problem be solved after 1st servicing?
        2. Can you tell me about the Sticky Soft Compound tyres to replace the stock ones for better grip and confidence?
        3. The Motul Oil you were talking about to reduce vibrations…
        4. The ‘Second Setting’ in Shocks…. What do I gotta tell the guy to make him do it?
        Oh yeah, can you be SPECIFIC about the tyres and Motul oil so that I can simply ‘Go and buy’ ‘em like some Parle-G biscuit?

        Your reply will be appreciated! Thank you.

        • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

          Yes, most of your problems will be solved after first service. Just tell the service guy to make adjustments to the shocks as per need.

          • Ujwal

            Thank you, Faisal.

          • Ujwal Thakur

            Hi, Faisal, Today I tried to test the power of my Apache 180 ABS (Age of bike: 1 month 4 days, 750 kms, 1 servicing done) by a drag race with my friend’s Pulsar 180(1 year). I’ve done it 3 times but his Pulsar outruns my Apache easily. Once we traded our bikes but still Pulsar outran it. The shortest 0-60 time 6.5 sec…..Very disappointing and I was humiliated…..Is there any fault in my bike or does it take time to improve the pickup cause it’s been only 1 month? Here I’m loathing….So pls reply…..

          • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

            How many kms has your bike done. Have you done first service?

  • Saurabh mani tripathi

    Hi Faisal,
    As I felt, tyres of my RTR provide enough grip on daily commute,but when pushed on corners,its a bit disappointing,as it doesn’t provide that glued experience. My question is,can I upgrade the stock tyres with soft compound rubber tyres like those found in R15 V2. if yes, please let me know about their manufacturer and name of tyres. eagerly waiting for your sincere reply.
    Regards
    saurabh mani tripathi

    • Mohit

      The Dimensions of the R15 v2.0 tyres are huge and will hamper performance of the bike. Get stock dimension tyres but better compound. All MRF tyres sold outside are 99% soft compound

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Yes, same sized tyres with good compound for grip are available too.

  • Vinit Mantri

    mohit, faisal, Is there any difference between the old Apache and New Apache’s engine’s performance concerning 0-60, bhp, torque?

  • Pradeep

    Faisal Why are not including apache 180 on your drag racing videos? It is also a performance bike bro

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Next time we will.

  • shankar

    HI All,
    is this bike having vibration problem ? im planning to buy this ,..
    please give genuine feedback .

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Yes at high RPMs, it does vibrate.

  • Pradeep

    What will happen if we apply sudden brakes in the speed of 70km like in the abs version

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      With ABS, it won’t skid but remember these systems are not fool proof.

  • parth

    faisal tell me that in what way fzs is better than apache rtr 180

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Better ride, handling and engine with no vibrations.

  • drift king

    Hai..faisal bro…i’m confusd b/w 200ns & rtr 180….my prefernces are riding comfrt,stability in bad roads,pillion seat comfrt. As i’m a short guy…slim too…pls suggst me one of this….is the high weight of 200ns be a prblm…also its seat height…???
    Due to the short wheelbase & low weight of rtr 180, whethr its stability and riding comfrt is low…???
    Which is bettr in riding thru traffic…???
    Whethr shouldr n neck pain will occur for me…???

    Pls reply fast….thanks in advance

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      With any bike, it’s all about getting used to. I would suggest the 200 NS.

  • drift king

    Hey faisal…i want to know that whethr the stability of rtr 180 is low bcos of its thin tyres…???
    Also which bike vibrates more…both in low and high RPMs…200ns or rtr 180…???
    Are the vibrations in apache very much disturbing…???
    Is rtr 180’s chasis so weak that it vibrates badly aftr a year…???

    Any news of future design changes in rtr180 and 200ns…???

    Pls rply…thks in advnce… :)

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Yes both bikes will get changes and the Apache vibrates more. TVS offers the worst tyres on the Apache but even the tyres on the 200 NS aren’t too good.

  • Abhi…

    Dear faisal,
    I’m planning to buy a new bike.My budget is around 85K.I had my hands on both pulsar 180 and apache 180.I liked the apache more as i felt it more powerfull.What’s your opinion?which one should i go for?please suggest me if you have some better options within this price…

  • Akshaykumar k.s

    rtr is a good bike

  • arix

    Apache is not so fast. Even pulsar 150 is better than the rtr 160 .

  • Janardham M

    Hai this is janardhan im using my 180 from last 2 year its is really superb bike and it never give up any bike to beat him and I road grip is superb and im just waiting for rtr 200cc if it comes I will take that also and my friends r having 220and karizma r but my rtr is the champ till now and he never gives up because he is the king if king

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      RTR 200 is not coming.

  • jk

    hi faisal is rtr 180 suitable for 6ft or 6+ person..

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Not suited for tall riders.

  • RK

    Hey faisal and Mohit,
    I m planning to buy a new bike. I m 5 feet 8 inches tall.
    I m a new rider, learned driving for around 20 days(n still practising).
    I just want to get a new bike which provides stablity,performance, Handling and sporty.
    My options are(under 1 lakh):-
    1. Pulsar 200NS
    2. Apache 180 ABS
    3. Yamaha Fazer
    suggest me the best bike for me bcoz i dont want to be accident prone and also dis would be my first bike.
    help me please..

  • RK

    one more thing i want to say that as a new rider i want good handling bike.
    Mainly my choice are :
    1.yamha fazer
    2.apache RTR 180 ABS.
    Which would be best bike ?
    Apache has rear disc brake but fazer hasn’t. For new rider rear disc or drum brake which will be good.
    Suggest me the best one.
    Your suggestion is highly required.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      I suggest waiting for Auto Expo to see what all new things are coming.

  • jk

    hi faisal bhai my hight is 6’0 i need 150-180cc range bike which bike is suited for me i dont wanna go pulsar range my preferance is fz16, extreme and apache,s my budget is 80-90 and i want efficiency above 40 kmpl in city .

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Get the FZ, it will give you more than 40 km/l.

  • Abhijith

    Hey guys …. I really liked this bike and I would like to buy this bike. But my height is always a problem for me.. Am just 5.4 :( whether with this height is it possible for me to ride this bike..?
    If no…. Please suggest me some other model I can go for.. I do wish to ride sporty bike so please do not recommend hero splendor like bike and disappoint me… If there is no such bike I can buy …it’s better drop the plan of buying bike other than going for uncles bikes

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Get the R15, will suit you.

  • I am a BikeR

    I loved the features n looks of RTR180 ABS,but i had eyes on Honda CB Trigger too. Coz it has CBS n Rtr has ABS…Which one is best.?? Should i opt for Trigger…… wats diff between these bikes.??

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Get the RTR, huge difference. Apache more powerful.

  • Mayur Khonikor

    Hi Faisal, I m 5.9 tall.I have Apache 150 first model since 2006 Nov.Till now I do not feel any problem.Now I wanna go for 180 non ABS.now question is it vibrates on more speed.Is it high?My average speed max 70 kmph.is it available in red color.my budget is around 85000 on road.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Vibrations are there but not much at 70 km/hr, it’s not available in red and will fit in your budget.

  • Mayur khonikor

    Tnq,Faisal.

  • madhav

    reg. ABS telltale (led) – as it’s a safety feature it is expected to be turned on by default. When it is disabled or faulty, to alert the driver the telltale will be lit. Think of engine check telltale in a car.

  • Dip Nehra

    Faisal bro Which colour of tvs apache 160 looks great?Is it perform like 180 in its class?

  • aromal

    good review

  • aromal

    hi faisal,
    here it is given rtr180 takes 0-100 in about 15 sec
    but in the website
    1) “iamthebiker” its said rtr180 does 0-100 in 10.8sec [http://www.iamabiker.com/motorcycle-news-desk/2014/tvs-apache-rtr-180-review/]
    2)”wikipedia” its said 0-100 in 12.07sec [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVS_Apache]
    both are minimum 2 sec less than motorbeam!
    can you give what is the 0-100 timing as per tvs?
    please clarify!
    thanks

  • sandip

    hey which 1 is more bettr apachi rtr 180 ya rtr abs 180

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      ABS model is better.

  • Mr.Rana

    Nice
    TVS Apache 180 ABS

  • aromal

    hi faisal,
    here it is given rtr180 takes 0-100 in about 15 sec
    but in the website
    1) “iamthebiker” its said rtr180 does 0-100 in 10.8sec [http://www.iamabiker.com/motorcycle-news-desk/2014/tvs-apache-rtr-180-review/]
    2)”wikipedia” its said 0-100 in 12.07sec [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVS_Apache]
    both are minimum 2 sec less than motorbeam!
    can you give what is the 0-100 timing as per tvs?
    please clarify!
    thanks

  • Arka Banerjee

    Plz help me which has a better pikup r15 or Apache Rtr 180???I know dat r15 is better overall but plz help me in choosing among the better acceleration among the 2

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      R15 has the better overall performance.

      • Arka Banerjee

        Ok….but I want to know which has better initial pikup off the line??…..I mean from 0 which accelerates with greater power??

  • Ashish Kumar

    Need ur suggestion..!! which bike should I buy Pulsar ns or rtr180 abs. Should be reliable, fuel efficient, fun to ride. If any other bike then plzz suggest.. :)

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      What’s your budget?

      • Ashish Kumar

        My budget is one lakh..!! :)

        • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

          Pulsar 200 NS.

  • manoj

    Im planning to get a new bike … which one is better ?? Which one gives the riding comfort and quality ?? And mileage above 48 ??? fz16 or apache 160

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      FZ16.

  • Ajith

    Can u tell me apache 180 abs onroad cost in Kerala (Kochi)?

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Around Rs. 95,000/-.

  • aromal

    hi Faisal Khan
    why dont Motorbeam give ratings to any vehicle now a days. It will give us a good idea about these vehicles and we can easily compare them without any fuss and at any time! It will also elevate Motorbeam brand value!
    Please .If u give rating , please dont rate it with a 5 star.Instead give it [0.1-10.0] ,so we can easily compare it!

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Sure, we are working on this.

      • aromal

        thanks a lot Faisal Khan, please include a section for brand value $ comfort and a Final rating by averaging all those?
        please also include an OUR CHOICE to a vehicle in case of comparison test.

  • Salman

    Hi Faisal/Mohit,

    I have a big fear of disc braked bikes because I currently use a Honda cb twister with drums, and am in the habit of going strong on braking. when I borrow my friend’s avenger, i’m fine stopping from high speeds but you can imagine the number of near-falls while stopping at low speeds. I want to upgrade to a pulsar 200ns, but the absence of abs worries me. Apache 180 is a great option, but I don’t know about long term reliability. are there aftermarket ABS kits that one could attach to the bike? How good are they?

  • ullash

    Hi faizal my height is 5’9 i want to buy bike which has good performance, good handling, good looks, and also great features, power should be atleast 20BHP , i reduced my choice to..
    1)pulsar 200NS
    2)pulsar 220F
    3)RTR 180ABS
    but as RTR 180abs dont have good BHP so is there any new bike of TVS coming which gives more power?

  • Ajit

    Hi Faizal,
    I want to choose one from CB Trigger,FZS and RTR 180.Which is the one should i go for.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      RTR 180.

  • Adi

    Hey Faisal…its a really nice review!!
    I have used Yam FZ 16 for 4 years and just sold it.
    I am slim, 5.9 tall and 32 years old and married.
    I test rode Apache RTR 160 and Hero Impulse.
    I ride bikes for regular market trips and mostly for fun..I go 8-10 KM a day in a week.
    But, I love to zoom past all the bikes on highways..sometimes I rode my FZ 16 at 95+ KMPH on empty roads for 5 minutes or so.
    I stay with my wife in mumbai and we both work here. My home (my mom/dad) are in Pune.
    I am now planning to make mumbai-pune trip on a bike with my wife on weekends.
    I do overtake a lot on mumbai-pune highway (one way) with my wife as a pillion.
    I want to ride at average speed of 70 KMPH and sometime stress the throttle and ride close to 100 KMPH (just to feel the wind above my ear) for 2-3 minutes. I’ll not ride at this speed for more than 3-4 minutes. I’ll ride at high speeds only on empty highways (one way)
    Which of the following bike is good in this case (please consider all the above conditions, my age, my weight, my height and my need):-
    1. Karizma R
    2. Apache RTR 180 (non-ABS)
    3. Hero Impulse
    4. Hero extreme.
    3.

  • anilesh

    Hai bro..my height is 5feet 2inch only.. apache rtr 180 abs is suitable for me? If the answer is no, then which bike is much more suitable for my height?? Pls reply …nd thanks in advance

  • adi

    ey Faisal…its a really nice review!!
    I have used Yam FZ 16 for 4 years and just sold it.
    I am slim, 5.9 tall and 32 years old and married.
    I test rode Apache RTR 160 and Hero Impulse.
    I ride bikes for regular market trips and mostly for fun..I go 8-10 KM a day in a week.
    But, I love to zoom past all the bikes on highways..sometimes I rode my FZ 16 at 95+ KMPH on empty roads for 5 minutes or so.
    I stay with my wife in mumbai and we both work here. My home (my mom/dad) are in Pune.
    I am now planning to make mumbai-pune trip on a bike with my wife on weekends.
    I do overtake a lot on mumbai-pune highway (one way) with my wife as a pillion.
    I want to ride at average speed of 70 KMPH and sometime stress the throttle and ride close to 100 KMPH (just to feel the wind above my ear) for 2-3 minutes. I’ll not ride at this speed for more than 3-4 minutes. I’ll ride at high speeds only on empty highways (one way)
    Which of the following bike is good in this case (please consider all the above conditions, my age, my weight, my height and my need):-
    1. Karizma R
    2. Apache RTR 180 (non-ABS)
    3. Hero Impulse
    4. Hero extreme.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Impulse lacks power on the highways, the Apache is a good option but the Karizma offers better overall comfort. For your requirements, you should actually be looking at the Honda CBR250R.

  • adi

    Hello Faizal,
    Will you please reply to my above post!!

  • adi

    Thanks a lot faizal.
    Honda CBR150R OR CBR250R exceeds my budget. I fear the width of rear tyre of Karizma R.
    New Karizma R (2014 version), is comparatively cheap and also its rear tyre width is increased which gives me some confident..will new Karizma R suites my overall demands ? Will it be a good buy ?
    Thanks in advance!

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Why not consider the Pulsar 200 NS? Or wait for sometime, we will be reviewing the new Karizmas.

  • adi

    Hello Faizal,
    It’d be a great help if you could answer my question, above!
    Thanks a ton!

  • Girish

    Hello Faizal,
    I have booked RTR160 Single Disc but I am confused to go for Hyper Edge or the latest beast model. Plz suggest me which one is better as my usage is max 30-40 kms/day and I am a moderate rider around 60 kms/hr. Also suggest how to maintain the new bike initially(type of Oil, speed). and is it worth going for extended warranty for the engine of the bike.

    Thanks in Advance
    Girish

  • Danish khan

    Hello Faizal ,
    I am planning to buy a bike in next month , Thinking to buy a TVS APACHE RTR 180 ABS . Is this a good choice , And my budget is 1 lak . If you have any other good bikes…… , I am 5.7 hight . I want good looking bike and good performance .Please help me to have a good buy .

    Thanks in Advance
    Danish khan

  • vicky thakur

    Hi I want to buy bike BT m confused…m on learning period BT rtr180 is My favorate my height is 5’5″ slim… my budget is 70-80k plzzz suggest me good bike..I don’t know much about bikes n all…plzzz help me

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Apace is a good option for you.

  • jyoti ranjan

    Its worth to buy cbr 250r hear that its going to discontinue.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      Nope, not now.

      • Dibyanjan

        Fas bro i want a bike which should i go for?apache 180 abs/fzs ?i want good performance,handling & looks.
        please suggest bro!

  • vicky thakur

    Thank u sir

  • Pulak Gharai

    I am buy a new bike but i am confuse of 3 bike model (1) Yamaha fz 16, (2) TVS APACHE RTR 180 ABS,
    or (3) Pulsar 200 NS. Please suggested me what is the best bike of both of three. I am looking performance & mileage…………..

    Please help me for chose a best bike..

    Regards
    Pulak Gharai

  • Girish

    Hi Mohit
    I bought tvs apache 180 non abs. Now I want to add abs to my bike . Is it possible?
    To avoid vibration to certain extent, which engine oil I need use?

  • Deepak

    Hi Faisal,
    I have planned to take apache 180 with abs. Please suggest whether abs is that much worth to buy for city traffic ride and also its maintainance. If abs is not worth for city ride i will go for 160 models….

    Please give your feedback

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      ABS totally worth it, no additional maintenance. Go for it.

      • Deepak

        Thanks faisal…..

  • Harshit

    Confused between apache rtr , yamaha fz and cb trigger.
    ABS version out of budget and have heard the non abs versions skid like hell. Scared as monsoon season is just on the horizon. Any suggestions?
    Is CBS on trigger good enough?

  • Maninder

    its gud for long journeys? ive heard it causes back pain for long-ride…thoughts its fantastic in city roads…

    • Abhiraj

      rtr 180 is a mean machine which only the pure enthusiasts on a budget will buy it..rtr seating position doesn’t suit for long drives,but a boon in city traffic…still it is the best bike under 1 lakh price bracket except the 200 NS..

  • anshu

    my height is 5.2 can i drive apache 180 abs ? pls tel me

  • Govind Shenoy

    Hey Faisal,

    I’m a second year engg college student.. New rider..

    Tell me the safest option and best overall bike..
    Apache rtr 180abs, fz-s v-2, 200ns..

    Will a new rider like me spoil the bike? What do you mean by vibrations in apache, bike vibrates?

    Thank you.

    • Govind Shenoy

      Re: is rtr abs still worth considering it’s four years old and costs as much as ns

  • Ankit Singh

    Please suggest a bike considering the below needs:

    – Budget 90000 – 100000 Rs
    – Good Mileage and handling
    – Good comfort so that I can go up to 100 km/day
    – I have choices like (RTR 180 ABS/ CB Trigger CBS). You can add if you think any better bike is out there. I want to go for Honda bikes only.
    – I have heard over the period of time Bajaj engines started to sound and Yamha downside is its mileage.

    Please suggest what to do. I have to buy a bike within next week.

    • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Faisal Khan

      RTR ABS is a good option.