Pulsar 200 NS vs R15 V 2.0 vs Karizma ZMR

by Faisal January 30, 2012

in Bikes

Bajaj Auto has unveiled the next generation Pulsar, which is the second generation of the most popular motorcycle in India. The Pulsar 200 NS (Naked Sport) has alot of firsts in the segment and will live on its promise of being high on power, fun and affordability. Now the obvious question is, which bike would you chose to buy if you have a budget of below Rs. 1.20 lakhs. Even though Bajaj has chosen not to reveal the prices, they have given a hint that it will be below Rs. 1 lakhs. With a few estimations (like fuel efficiency) in place, we have done a quick comparo of these three bikes to find out which is the king of this segment.

Hero Karizma ZMR FI

Hero Karizma ZMR FI photo

The bike with the lowest power to weight ratio, the Karizma ZMR can not be ruled out just because it is not that quick. The Karizma ZMR is highly reliable and a comfortable tourer for long distance touring and well suited to tall riders. The engine might not make your heart skip a beat but is extremely smooth and produces torque well down the revv range, making cruising at high speeds a breeze. The styling might not be to everyones liking and the unavailability of spares are something which are not very pleasing.

Yamaha YZF-R15 Version 2.0

8207  540x375 Yamaha R15 V2 Review 10 photo

What is a 150cc doing in between these 200cc + bikes. Well, the Yamaha R15 is a very potent machine and although it is int anywhere as quick in acceleration or top speed as the Pulsar 200 NS is expected to be, the R15′s USP is the way it lays down its 17 PS of power. The killer looks can’t be matched, while the handling is the sharpest of any motorcycle sold in India (below 600cc). The brakes, engine refinement, quality all negate the relatively higher price of the R15 Version 2.0. However, the aggressive riding position and almost un-usable pillion seat makes the R15 not a very practical machine.

Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS

10784  540x375 Pulsar 200 NS 10 photo

The most awaited bike since quite some time now, the next generation Pulsar is finally here. Powered by a 200cc, 4-valve engine with triple spark plugs, the Pulsar 200 NS looks very strong on paper. The next generation Pulsar has a smaller tank too (smallest ever for a Pulsar), which goes to show that losing weight was a priority. The power to weight ratio is the highest, while the cost per BHP (as per our estimated price) is the lowest, giving bang for the buck, something which the Pulsars are known for. The streetfigher looks, power output and value for money are the evident positives of the next generation Pulsar. The lack of fuel injection, no full fairing and projectors are the obvious drawbacks to most.

Pulsar 200 NS vs Yamaha R15 V2.0 vs Karizma ZMR – Quick Comparo

Bikes Karizma ZMR Pulsar 200 NS Yamaha R15 V2.0
Parameters
Engine (in cc) 223 200 150
Power (in BHP) 17.6 23.5 16.76
Torque (in Nm) 18.35 18.3 15
Weight (in kgs) 159 145 136
Power To Weight 110.7 162.1 123.2
0 – 100 kmph (in seconds) 13.5 9.8 11.5
Top Speed (in kmph) 126 136 130
Price (in Rs, ex-showroom, Delhi) 95500 95000 107000
Cost Per BHP (in Rs) 5426 4043 6384
Mileage (in kmpl) 38 35 35

Our Choice - At this moment, without even riding the Pulsar 200 NS, it is very difficult to chose one but the next generation Pulsar 200 NS does look promising. If Bajaj has been able to iron out all the issues and improved refinement, then the all new Pulsar will be difficult to beat. Either ways, the Karizma ZMR gives no threat to the Pulsar 200 NS, while the R15 Version 2.0 is almost 20% more expensive than the Pulsar 200 NS. The second generation Pulsar will live up to what the first generation has created – VALUE for consumers and there is very difficult denying that.

Which one would you pick?

{ 155 comments… read them below or add one }

rakeshkn January 30, 2012 at 4:43 pm

Definitely Pulsar NS

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Zubair February 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Bajaj has done it again.

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sachin January 30, 2012 at 5:19 pm

Things may look good on papper but how it fairs in real world usage is what matters.so far pulsers are lagging behind in handling,engine refinement and some quality issues….if bajaj can iron out these only then they can beat the japnees.

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Pulsarboy January 31, 2012 at 2:48 am

Even without all these, Pulsar got 50% market share, now with this upgrade, japs are going to get wiped out. Just wish that TVS upgrades Apache, which will make sure that japs are finished.

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karan January 30, 2012 at 5:39 pm

This is how a pulsar should be.. hats off to bajaj.. indeed

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afzal January 30, 2012 at 8:17 pm

a very good answer to all above bikes given by Bajaj…thumbs up!

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kaushik January 30, 2012 at 8:23 pm

From single spark, to DTS-i (digital twin spark ignition) and now to triple spark? Damn, that’s many sparkings… everythings fine, but bajaj, why no 4 valve head like the 135 ls???

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k.p January 30, 2012 at 11:15 pm

its 4 vavle head only my friend

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Ryu January 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm

wOw! it looks like I want..!! Revolutionary Pulsar!!!

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Atul January 31, 2012 at 12:20 am

May be there would be a new karizma till then, who knows may be with cbr250r engine. Let the ns come in market. Then predict

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 2:05 am

Atul, no new Karizma from Hero anytime in the near future.

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sid January 31, 2012 at 2:14 am

Lets see how Bajaj prices this bike as it has similarities with Duke 200 which is an excellent bike and would be my bet given it is about the same priced as R15V2.

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Pulsarboy January 31, 2012 at 2:43 am

@Sid, no way this is going to be priced at R15 level.. Duke with it’s FI, costly suspension bits from WP suspension is priced at 1.17k, though it’s introductory price, it tells you the way Bajaj goes about pricing. Damn sure, P200 is going to sport a sub 1 lakh ex-show room price, more like 85-95k. Taking out FI system itself results in 20k savings, add to that cost saved by not going for WP suspension, that can be another 10k easily. So, in my view Bajaj got the perfect weapon to devastate competition. Just imagine, would you go for any other bike if this is offered @95k on road??

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vimal January 31, 2012 at 4:12 am

good saying

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abhisek January 31, 2012 at 11:48 am

Pulsarboy ur exhaggerating the facts. I dont thing they r saving more than 10k by not puttin FI since their carburetor is expensive this time n cost of 3 spark plugs. In suspension also not so much since they already have gas charged monoshocks. When compared to duke they r saving in -

1)No FI
2)130mm rear tyres to Dukes 150mm
3)35W lamps to Dukes 55W lamps
4)single pot Front Disc to Dukes 2-pot.

Apart from that they r saving in some more small things (led to non-led indicators etc) and taking 2-3k less from the Brand difference and localisation advantages too.

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Pulsarboy January 31, 2012 at 8:05 pm

Do you have any idea how much WP suspension costs?? it’s a company that prices their suspension systems way above the competition. just for your info even the Duke is 95% localized, very few parts are imported. did you look at how the aluminium swing arm looks on Duke, compare that to one present on P200NS. It’s just a rough estimate, they are saving at least 40k when compared to Duke 200. So, don’t be surprised if this bike is available at around 95k OTR.

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Pulsarboy January 31, 2012 at 2:33 am

That seems like the end for Karizma/ZMR/R15.. with both Duke 200/P200 now squarely aimed at bikes between 80k to 150k price range, it’s hard to ignore such VFM propositions. Not to say that they will go out of the market, but progressively less and less buyers would go for them in the light of new alternatives such as Duke 200/P200. Knowing Bajaj P200 would certainly be priced below 1 lakh, this is why I stated on the other thread that CBR150 is dead before even getting launched.

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abeleth January 31, 2012 at 3:12 am

pulsar 200ns la mejor y por largo rato, para las japonesas, la cosa esta como malucomga

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sid January 31, 2012 at 10:56 am

As I said on some other page that people are under estimating the number of people who just love full faired bike than naked. So it seems R15V2 or CBR150R may not be dead after all :)

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 2:12 am

Sid, yes we Indian do have a thing for full faired bikes and case in point is the fake fairings which we see on many Pulsars and ZMAs.

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ignatius January 31, 2012 at 11:16 am

Karizma is a tourer , R15 is a race track bike .. but i dont know where this pulsar will fit .. No bike is threat for R15 unless Yamaha comes with other race machine ..

Karizma is a low cost tourer below CBR250R .. and hence only it claims 6 month waiting period still ..

the same way specutlations told once xcd 125 comes .. splendor and passion will die .. but ulitmately xcd die with in 2 years ,…

Hope Bajaj wont do that mistake again …

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Aryan January 31, 2012 at 11:30 am

Karizma claims 6 months waiting bcoz its production volumes r very low. Pulsar don’t have to fit in segments it creates its own segment. grow up dude.

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abhisek January 31, 2012 at 11:43 am

Ignatius XCD was never a ground breaking product, it was quite ugly and no one liked it. Splendor existed because of its legacy. The poor people have more reliability on it and people wanted mileage and the ppl of that segment r not bikers. They dont want to try anything new. Ppl like you who buy 97cc worst bikes like passion wont understand what a bike is for a biker.

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Pramod Chennai January 31, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Ignatius,
6 months waiting period not only for delivery, but for spares too !!

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 2:18 am

Pramod Chennai, yes horrible attitude at some service centers.

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abhisek January 31, 2012 at 8:24 am

IMHO the design of P200NS is better than R15 or ZMR. ZMR is already not beautiful…. Its tank is like passion plus and back look is ugly. R15 V2 looks good but it has advantage of having fairing and 2 headlights (which r not puposeful). NS looks stunning as a naked bike and quite well design and looks very expensive. If it has a fairing then it will have another good alternative look. Power wise it is in a different segment compared to R15 and ZMR. Even at 95K it looks underpriced to me! But we have to wait to reviews and refinement and other issues. Bajaj has now got over 10yrs exp so we can expect something better. It has made TVS look so inferior when compared to Bajaj Auto.

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Aryan January 31, 2012 at 9:11 am

Milege of Pulsar 35 WTF. bajaj claims 58 we can get atleast 45-50 dude.& who told you its 95 K.???

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abhisek January 31, 2012 at 9:17 am

Bajaj claims 58kmpl. ul get it if u ride at constantly everytime at fixed 55kmph and at 6th gear. But in the city mileage drops drastically. My 125cc Stunner gives 41kmpl in the city :( I used to get 55kmpl on my caliber earlier.

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ajay January 31, 2012 at 4:00 pm

honda vehicle are delicate i feel go for any hero bike for mileage my friend have stunner he get 51KMPH i dont wants wrong in ur engine, go for nice mechanic work shop so that u impove ur mileage

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abhisek January 31, 2012 at 5:13 pm

My Bike is just 5 months old and I go to authorised Haiku Honda Servicing (1 Free remaining). I complained them about low mileage. They said its rectified. I am calculating it now but I dont think things have changed much. Theres nothing wrong in the engine since the engine note sound is superb. For me personally it has the best engine sound in any bikes <=150cc. The power delivery is also smooth and the bike feels comfortable. Lets c if it improves.thanks.

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ajay January 31, 2012 at 5:30 pm

as per my knowledge u have one year free serving (6 Services)
who is that fellow who gave this option go fight for ur bike man

abhisek February 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm

Ajay I think some time ago we had 6 free servicing. Now we have only 4 free. The service book is given by Honda and not the Dealer so that can not be a cheating.

Faisal February 3, 2012 at 2:10 am

Aryan, we have clearly written it is an estimate.

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shubham January 31, 2012 at 10:20 am

all the power facts of r15 are wrong…….this bike cant b neglected in speed

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 2:11 am

Shubham, the power facts are right. The bike makes 17 PS and PS is not equal to BHP.

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k 72 Racing Team January 31, 2012 at 10:24 am

Let c guys whether it can play around the corners like R15.

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Aryan January 31, 2012 at 11:18 am

It can play around corners much better than R15.. I exp it !!!

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Aryan January 31, 2012 at 11:25 am

@ abhishek……. dude u r in 2012 yr. those false claim days r over. ARAI has more strict rules. any company can only claim any figures according to ARAI testings only not by their own.
If ARAI testing claims 58kmpl at constant 55kmph speed so in city it will surely give you @ 48-50 kmpl. don’t compare this triple spark engine with single spark engines. its comparing like horse & donkey. even P180 UG 4 gives @ 50kmpl.

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abhisek January 31, 2012 at 11:36 am

Aryan dont expect too much in fuel economy. I dnt say claims r false but those conditions r far from normal so u see a * marked in the mileage claims. My friend has 150cc R15 and it gives 36-37kmpl in the city. Though on highway riding at a speed of 50kmph in 6th gear always with no acceleration or deacceleration may give him 55-60kmpl. possible. Its comman-sense yar. Depends on riding style and roads n traffic. In city I expect 35-36kmpl from NS. Even Motorbeam expects 35kmpl. They r not fools nor am I. And more than spark plugs the difference in power is due to the bottom end of engine taken from KTM200.

In between Zigwheels.com have already road tested the bike. Reputed motorist Adil Darukhanwala claims it has the best engine sound note in any bike in India.

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 2:13 am

Aryan, the fuel efficiency figures are not by ARAI.

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vijay January 31, 2012 at 12:35 pm

Pulsar…….always……….value for money…

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ajay January 31, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Pulsar no value for engine man

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humneet singh January 31, 2012 at 2:47 pm

bajaj should work on the looks
pulsor looks nowhere near than the R15
but pulsor’s value for money and engine is far more superior!!
Confused to buy which one?…

but if yamaha cuts the price of R15 to 95 – 1lakh level i would definately buy R15 for it’s looks….

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ajay January 31, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Dear Friends,
I really loved ur suggestion but i have Yamaha fz when i see in my view i feel both pulsar 200ns and Yamaha FZ are almost equal there is slight difference in muscular tank and look frankly speaking pulsar engine is not up to park after 3years of usage, there is different sound in engine to,let see how it is in market

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Pramod Chennai January 31, 2012 at 4:39 pm

People are not understanding the basic things. R15′s riding position is aggressive and designed to fight the air resistence at high speed. This means it is to be used at race track only, and probably for short trips thru highways( 80% of R 15 owners have never seen a race track yet). And hence using this bike for daily office commute thru city ( falling on the fuel tank like ” please don’t beat me any more”).
A touring bik eneeds a comfy seating position and adequate power, like ZMR and Bullet. People call CBR 250Ra sport tourer- this dos not make any sense since the seating postion of these two segments are just opposite.Some say leaning forward position in CBR is very comfy- even the ones who say it know they are lying.If that was ti be truen then all over buses and cars should have had Push Front seats instead of push back and we should be folding our legs back instead of stretching them when tired.

P 220 NS is never a track bike, but its a naked bike with sporty engine. and the riding position and the GC show that it is best for daily commute and eaqually good for tough terrains(like Indian interior roads), and the power and torque figures suggest the how poerful the bike can be when needed.

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Deepak Dongre January 31, 2012 at 5:09 pm

@Pramod: Very nicely put. Just wanted to clarify on the comfort factor of the CBR- well not really as comfy as the ZMA or ZMR, but its not too bad either. Yes it is forward biased but a wonderful suspension makes up for it. You get used to it in 1 – 2 days of riding.

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Pramod Chennai January 31, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Hi Deepak,
Just wanted to mention it..even am waiting for my CBR 250R C-ABS delivery. As I told, I know that riding position is not upright like my P 220′s or Zma’s, but still I love the machine and suspension as you highlighted, to be precise, booked this one knowing what I am up against.

I found its riding position more like RTR’s( RTR’s suspension is quite bad) and it gives your back a task if you go for more than 50 kms continously.

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softwareprabhu January 31, 2012 at 6:31 pm

for those who are still thinking about Bajaj Pulsar 200NS vs KTM Duke 200:

Bajaj Pulsar 200NS is the best middle-class sports bike and there is no doubt in it.
i love it. but, KTM Duke 200 is not just a bike, it a Lifestyle. like Bullet.

their model name is not just a name. they mean it.
(KTM) Duke – A nobleman (in various countries) of high rank
Rolal (Enfield) – Established, chartered or authorized by royalty

are you still comparing?!. visit some foreign blogs/website before comparing a foregin/other category bike.

PS: students, stay away from Royal Enfield & KTM, unless you have a fatso wallet for addon accessories/wears.
without those extra addons, there is no meaning of buying a KTM or Royal Enfield.

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manish January 31, 2012 at 10:49 pm

Both Are Very Nice Looking Bikes…

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Neil February 1, 2012 at 1:47 am

@Pulsarboy: If you dont mind sharing your contact detials. If you have a BBM Pin by any chance do let me know.

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Pulsarboy February 1, 2012 at 2:42 am

What’s a BBM pin? i’ve no idea about it, you can drop me a mail on veerendra803@gmail.com.

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Neil February 1, 2012 at 1:49 am

@Pulsarboy: Also would like to know where do you hail from?

Cheers!!

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neil February 1, 2012 at 3:37 pm

@Pulsarboy: Just ignore the BBM Pin part and good that you dont know it. Thanks for the email address.

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kranti February 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Eagerly waiting for d real cruiser KTM DUKE

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Sarik February 1, 2012 at 8:40 pm

Japs…!! r not finished yet. yam shuld beware from the tough rival for r15 the honda cbr 150r. after the success of cbr 250r the 150r will take on his rival r15. that must be interisting to see after 150r’s launch in the market. 17 bhp=r15 vs 18 bhp= cbr 150r.

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k.p February 3, 2012 at 12:38 pm

r 15 torque 15nm= cbr1 50r 12.6 nm torque??

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Sarik February 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm

some may have marveled at the brilliance of the CBR250R’shandling the fact remains that it just doesn’t have the buzz and the exhilaration that the 200 NS does and even while giving away crucial displacement to the quarter-litre Honda, this Bajaj can show a thing or two, not just to the CBR but to every other bike onthe market in its class and thenleave them for dead. zigwheels rating=9.5 for pulsar 200.

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Rakesh February 2, 2012 at 1:51 am

Wow. the specifications mentioned about Pulsor 200NS looks like Playing 11 list of the Brazillian National Soccer Team,legendary names on paper but performance not upto mark . Hope Pulsor 200NS does not go down like the same and stand upto the standards and market expectations . Bajaj bikes have Dominated Indian roads for the pricing they offer and not for the Quality ,Efficiency nor Riding comfort. If pricing can be reduced for the the super style R15 2.0/CBR and be brought down to 5 digit value , it would rule the market ,as it would be Economically thinkable for the Bike Fanacists and Middle class people …
But practically, that’s highly impossible …

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dinesh February 2, 2012 at 4:29 am

We cannot decide anything with just papers in hand. Only after the test ride we can say about the product. But the Pulsar 200 looks killer. But we have to see on the engine refinement and the gearbox. And how the bike react on the roads. But whatever it is Pulsar can sell in volumes but the refinement and technology it cannot match the Japanese contenders…..

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rocky February 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm

r15 v2.0 rockxxxxxxx…….no pulsar can compete with it

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Neil February 3, 2012 at 12:56 am

I’ve been using pulsar 8 years God damn. The bike still turns sour hearts to sweet mind. It is what you extract from the bike and not the bike from you. Feel it enjoy it. Pulsars are for heaven sake the most exciting bike. Who doesnt have the quality niggles. How many years have you been swinging around and for what purpose. R15 or FZ are from he house of Yahama and their dynamics are spot on, only after the RD of 40 – 50 years. they have been in moto GP they have been everywhere in the world. You should expect this to happen much earlier when the yamaha’s had headaches with Crux, YBX, YD and Enticer. Give me a break. Its the Bajaj people (Read it Bajaj R&D) taken a forward leap and brokne the jinx of performance biking. Balls to the Honda’s and Yamaha’s. They felt the survival threat and came up with a recuparating idea. Where were they for years. Why didnt they give the joy way back in 1990′s-2000′s. Sleeping giants. Look at the hideous looking ZMR. Again Honda playin part here. Lets see what the can pull after the split up. Do they have the guts to survive. The feel the heat too. Splendor bike has created wonders for the Jindals Hero group and Honda made them look better. Its the relaibilty of the honda made hero survive and not the Hero making the Honda’s survive. Pulsar sets you heart pulsating and only the people who have dive will know it. Its the respect you show to the bike. Filthy looking Hero Honda’s still have build issues. The have valve issuse, the have cylider head issues. Whats that know. No matter how educated we are we go damn care about the nitty-gritty’s and just keep on blaming a product even before trying to know what substance it is made of up. The R15 is just a better track tool. Where else can you take that ride. Shallows, valleys. Even a journey of over 100 kms will make you feel life less. So whats the use of R15. What praticality it carries.

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 1:33 am

Neil, well said about what you extract from the bike and not the bike from you. At the end of the day what matters is biking, irrespective of the bike ;-)

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Abhisek February 3, 2012 at 3:42 am

Well said Neil n Fas. Pulsar has made India proud. Indonesian n many othr countries’ bikers r dying to get it launchd soon in thr countries.

Fas I can’t wait anymr to read d test ride of P200 NS by motorbeam. Pls don’t make us wait anymr. Hope u get d bike soon :-)

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Abhisek, we don’t want to make you wait but Bajaj Auto is not yet offering bikes for reviews!

abhisek February 2, 2012 at 9:24 pm

Fas I saw this pic carefully and am taken by surprise to see that Bajaj are using BYBRE (Brembo) brakes for the 200 NS. Did u notice that one?

http://www.motorbeam.com/wp-content/gallery/bajaj-pulsar-200-ns/Bajaj_Pulsar_200_NS_Rear_Tyre.JPG

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Faisal February 3, 2012 at 2:37 am

Abhisek, nothing surprising there. What the Duke can use, the P200NS too can!

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Gautham February 5, 2012 at 7:51 am

No surprise even the P220 uses the bybre brakes.

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afzal February 3, 2012 at 10:40 am

very good answer provided by Mr. Neil…in support of that i would like to add that even though Japnese Moto giants have over 40years of R&D section but still there 150cc bike gives the average in align with 220cc engine of ours….what will you do of engine refinement then???

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dilker February 4, 2012 at 9:22 am

can any body say that KTM SERVICE will done at only at KTM Servicing centre or it may be done at bajaj showroom.

this is the reasone why i Pause my booking KTM DUKE 200.

KTM Showroom is about 500 away from my home.

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Faisal February 4, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Dilker, KTM servicing will be done at Bajaj I think as KTM showroom dont seem to have a service area. Need to confirm this.

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Pramod Chennai February 4, 2012 at 9:29 am

@ Faisal, I have not ridden any bike with centrally placed exhaust as this one and Duke have. From the pics, it seems that the outlet comes close to the right foot( don’t know it just seems to me), do you thinh that the right foot/ left foot will be exposed to excessive heat ?

And was the demo bike fitted with Saree guard, which is essential for Indian market and how was the bike looking with it?

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Faisal February 4, 2012 at 4:07 pm

Pramod, yes there is a saree guard present and the bike looks just fine. As far as the exhaust goes, it is placed in such a manner that it does not blow air on your foot.

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Shibadip February 4, 2012 at 4:19 pm

No pramod, the exhaust and the foot peg r located quite fr from each other. also the test riders has done quite a no, of test before unveiling this bike. so rest assured dis problem will not arise.(unless u hv a KHALi like foot)

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Shibadip February 4, 2012 at 4:34 pm

I had a pulsar 150cc which got stolen 2 yrs back.Snce den was waiting for r15 v2.0, but on it,s launch found it too impractical and too expensive!! So, again had to wait long for next gen pulsars.
Although i am a pulsar fan, but i am not a fan of naked bikes. But the aggressive looks of 200 NS is haunting me every day and so i am planning to book 200 NS on 1st day only, but can anyone tell me if a full fairing can b attached in d bike?? (After d warranty period is over)
Also will it be risky to book it so early without looking over some of the ownership reviews.

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Abhisek February 5, 2012 at 9:54 am

If P220 F’s fairing can be put on P220 N then most probably in NS also it would be possible when dey launch faired version. Checkout at service centers.
Later u can ask this question in some big auto magzine lik autocar, overdrive, zigwheels n dey wil ans correctly. Fas can also help u in dis regard

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Shibadip February 5, 2012 at 10:13 am

Frame of 220S and 200NS is completely different. However, when BAL will launch the faired version of 200NS that can probably fit to 200NS. But the thing i worry about is the Hunk like protruding tank of 200NS. However i have seen a Hunk modded with R15 v1.0 fairing at Kolkata(not looking good altough)!!!

FAS or anyone with modification knowledge; pls throw some light.

P.S.- I am also against any modification on bikes, as i think bike looks and performs better in original self. But also i am vry much of an anti-nacked theme guy. Dats y never liked FZ16.

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abhisek February 5, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Shibadip I din say about frame of 220 and 200 NS. Im saying whether the fairing of faired 220 will fit the unfaired 220 (same bike). I also believe that too much modification makes the bike prematurely old.

Surely it will be slightly risky to book before going through all the reviews but 200 NS seems to be a strong option and nothing going against it. With the 2 big Ks behind Bajaj and their own RnD effort I dnt think its too risky. This test ride review might help u
http://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-advice/reviews/2012-bajaj-pulsar-200ns-world-exclusive-first-ride/11446/1

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Shibadip February 5, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Thanks abhi… But hav seen d review earlier. Too biased.Think i will b d 1 giving a hands on review for others to decide.!!
Also i see a compleately new switch/valve on the left side of d bike. Guess it is 4 reserve/main petrol valve. Aginin a 1st time in india i guess!!!!
Seen some post on other forums where it is being said that advance booking have already started. Any nwz on dat???

Faisal February 5, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Shibadip, the faired version will have different headlights. You wont be able to put the fairing on the Pulsar 200 NS.

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Shibadip February 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm

FAS.. I called up probiking showroom at kolkata an hour ago. They told dat new pulsar sale r about 5-6 mths from now and assured dat dere is no booking of 200NS as of now anywhere in India, and was thereby persuading me to book Duke 200.
Going by ur statement, i guess u hv 2 hv some inside source at probking 2 get booking unofficialy.
Seeing the interest on dis bike, i guess dere will b a huge demand and d waiting period will b of 2-3mths whn d booking statrts officially. So can any 1 confirm abt d Unofficial booking?? and hw can i get 1 if dere is any??

ANd about the problem of faired version having different headlights, then howcome we c current pulsars and other bike hav a NINJA or a R15 fairing??

Shibadip February 5, 2012 at 4:35 pm

FAS; if not at probiking, den where will i go for booking?? OSL counters??
I guess d probiking person gave d story of 5-6mths so dat he could persuade me for a duke 200 instead.
Hpoe d productin suffices d demand, but i want my bike to be at least within 1st 5 200NS in Kolkata. That will b 1 exclusive 1 in my locality!!!!!

And pls throw some more light abt d fairing. I am very much impressed with dis bike, and only thing dat might stop me is the naked theme..
Will i be able to modify it with any NINJA/R15 v2.0/Pulsar 200Fully Faired ??

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Abhisek February 5, 2012 at 5:00 pm

I agree d review is slightly biassed n Adil seems to be overwhelmed n return favour to Bajaj for exclusively providng him bike for road test even before launch.
I lov faired bikes.also bcz of light handle so I cn undrstnd ur prob so wel.althogh ns looks striking in naked avtar.
Probikng guys wil obv persuade u to buy ninja/duke bcz of thr own performnce ratngs.
U cn email or cal helpline from bajaj auto site contacts. Thrs a customer care toll free num.

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Shibadip February 5, 2012 at 5:06 pm

D toll free no. is closed on sunday. Will call dem 2moro. But they will hv only 1 thing 2 say= no booking now and will start 4 late may or aprl start.

All will b ok 4 me if some1 can convincingly cofirm me about the fairing modification.

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Faisal February 6, 2012 at 12:34 am

Shibadip, yes you have to go to Bajaj showrooms for Pulsar bookings. You maybe able to modify with fairing but it wont be such a clean job as the original.

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Shibadip February 6, 2012 at 12:44 am

OK mate, hv made up my mind. Will gv a look at d pricing of CBR150R to b relsd by end May. If not satisfied, will book 200NS.
Wont be modifying anything till d warranty period(2yrs). By dat time some idiot will fair it up and post it on d net!!!!!!!!
Depending on those pic will take my further decn.
What say??

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Faisal February 7, 2012 at 1:03 am

Shibadip, if you want faired, then wait for faired P200, Bajaj will launch that too.

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R15 fan February 9, 2012 at 1:38 pm

no way comparo
p200 is a naked bike ,a person who is a lover of street bike or naked bike will get this.
hero honda karizma zmr is a sports tourer bike , a person who is a lover of sports bikes nd will take it to long ways will get zmr.
last but not the least
YAMAHA YZF R15 V2.0 it is a truely racing bike nd person like me who is the lover of racing bikes will get this like i will.

Conclusion:- every bike has merits nd demerits ,every one has its choice

but r15 is better in my opinion because except of being a 150cc bike it gives a tough compition to other bikes of 200cc.

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somnath February 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm

pulser 200ns & yahama R version bike which best opitions
pls help me..

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Faisal February 12, 2012 at 2:06 am

Somnath, depends on your requirements.

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Sameer February 16, 2012 at 11:07 am

No doubt… Plz go with pulsar, the reliable one….

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